Thoughts Asea

We. the trailmix masses with wretched refuse strewn across our desks and huddled o’er our keyboards yearning to think free respond to Lady Liberty Jamie’s call “send your temper tossed homeless thoughts to me”

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  1. patd says:

    thought for today: it would be fitting for protestors on behalf of the original oregon residents — the displaced native american tribes — to show-up en masse and protest the bundy band protestors.

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  2. Jamie says:

    Thank you Pat. There are certainly enough “issues” out there to be discussed. Love the idea of “reclaiming” tribal lands. One of the things that bothers me is that as usual the news people are giving so little historical background to the events.

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  3. patd says:

    compare protestor occupied wildlife refuge to above tribal history

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  4. patd says:

    jack, the guys who were there before the feds, before the ranchers, before the trappers and before the hippies…

    come to think of it, the grizzlies and bison have the best claim and it’s poetic justice this land is protected being designated a wildlife refuge… well, it’s supposed to be protected.

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  5. Flatus says:

    All I know is that it looks very much like the Pacific side of South America in times past. I can just envision the War of the Pacific playing out between the tribes ca.1879 just as it did in the lower hemisphere.
    Thanks for the charts, Pat.

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  6. rebelliousrenee says:

    The end of Jeb….
    should come soon after the Iowa caucus and the NH primary. He’s spending a ton of money on tv ads in our market… but from what I understand… it hasn’t budged his tiny poll numbers one bit.

    I mean… who the hell in their right mind would ever want a third bushy…

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    • Tony says:

      A wonderful speech and i give him much credit.. That tear, wow.. On Fox News of course one female commentator said he must of had a raw onion at the podium.. So disrespectful…

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  7. whskyjack says:

    A good article from the Des Moines Register
    http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/news/elections/presidential/caucus/2016/01/02/big-question-what-will-iowa-caucus-avoiders-do/78019652/

    After spending months cultivating party activists, presidential campaigns in Iowa are going all-out in the final four weeks to woo an additional target: caucus avoiders.

    Registered Republicans and Democrats who don’t caucus are a massive group. Persuading a small fraction to turn out rather than stay home could rip the presidential race out of the current front-runners’ hands and put someone else on the path to the White House.

    If they were to create a wave on Feb. 1, political strategists say, it would most likely crest for the ultra-liberal Bernie Sanders or the mad-dog conservative Donald Trump, the two breakout phenomena of the 2016 race and vessels for anger about a political and economic system they rail against as broken

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    • Jamie says:

      This is exactly the reason why I hate the caucus system. I did my first one in 2008 and I’m not looking forward to the March 26 this year. Last time it was the flooding with Obama delegates (admittedly Hillary really blew the process). This time around I really fear the Bernie babies.

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  8. I think Bernie can benefit from an insurgency because he has an organization Trump not so much you have to work to get people to the caucus and it isn’t just voting you have to caucus I just don’t see it for the Trumpites. Republicans who support Trump should be deeply ashamed

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  9. Mr C and I are on the Clinton mailing list and I have to say her stuff and style is kind of dated she is using modern techniques but her content is OLD

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  10. Jamie says:

    I’m firmly in the Clinton camp but have to agree that her material feels a little musty. Of course a really smart grandmother doing good things might not be a bad thing.

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  11. patd says:

    from http://wonkette.com/597623/praise-god-and-pass-the-maple-syrup-donald-trump-goes-birther-on-ted-cruz
    Trump sure would hate it (wink wink) if anyone were to drag Cruz to court (WINK WINK) over “precarious” questions regarding his eligibility (WINK MOTHERFUCKIN’ WINK) to pose a threat to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign. Would be a real shame if that were to happen (SERIOUSLY, YOU PEOPLE TAKING NOTES HERE?), especially since Cruz has a “double passport,” which may or may not be true, and may or may not even be a real thing. Especially since Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship years ago when people like Donald Trump — yes, that Donald Trump, duh — first started speculating that Cruz is a unlegitimate foreign.
    Better stop looking so good in those polls, Sen. Cruz, or The Donald might have to send his team of private investigators after your so-called birth certificate too.

    wapo’s take on it https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-says-cruzs-canadian-birth-could-be-very-precarious-for-gop/2016/01/05/5ce69764-b3f8-11e5-9388-466021d971de_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_trump0106-610pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

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  12. Tony says:

    2016
    Obama’s gun push helps Clinton
    White House aides insist Obama’s announcement wasn’t done for Clinton, though they acknowledge it could help her in both the primary and general election.
    By Edward-Isaac Dovere and Sarah Wheaton

    Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/01/obama-guns-hillary-clinton-217384#ixzz3wT5JUAkt

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  13. Tony says:

    Sticking to ‘New Year’s resolution,’ Clinton sidesteps Trump attacks
    By Emma Margolin Video
    http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/sticking-new-years-resolution-clinton-has-nothing-say-trump

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  14. Tony says:

    This crowd shot from Donald Trump’s Massachusetts rally is absolutely mind-boggling
    Chris Cillizza
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/05/this-crowd-shot-from-a-donald-trump-rally-is-absolutely-eye-popping/

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  15. rebelliousrenee says:

    I know people who’ve told me they are voting for Trump in the upcoming NH primary. They are good hard working honest people… and they are pissed off at the entire political system. I know people who’ve told me they are voting for Sanders… they too are good hard working honest people… and they too are pissed off at the entire political system. Can’t say I blame anyone for being pissed off at our system… it does suck.

    ps… I do find Donald disgusting… but I do understand the anger…

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  16. patd says:

    trevor noah daily show episode
    http://on.cc.com/1Rh00by
    Land Wars: An Armed Standoff in Oregon
    Due to a dispute over ranching rights, an armed militia seizes a federal building in Oregon, but government officials aren’t bothering to respond. (9:22)

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  17. patd says:

    from http://www.wsj.com/articles/roots-of-oregon-land-dispute-stretch-back-decades-1452042408
    Roots of Oregon Land Dispute Stretch Back Decades
    Behind the armed protest at a wildlife preserve lies a struggle between agencies that manage federal land and ranchers, loggers and miners who depend on it

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  18. whskyjack says:

    Renee
    There is a young man in my neighborhood, his first choice is Sanders, second is Trump and he calls him self a libertarian. need less to say he is one of those low information voters.

    Jack

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  19. Jamie says:

    My favorite sign of the day:

     photo White House Keys_zpsuylikdnv.jpg

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  20. rebelliousrenee says:

    Jack…
    I agree that most Trump supporters and some Sanders supporters are low information voters. The problem is that they are angered enough to go to the polls and vote. Or maybe it’s not a problem… maybe it is time for a shake-up of the political elite. Only time will tell… until then… it’s going to be very, very interesting.

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    • Tony says:

      OMG, yes, low info like my cousin in Michigan.. Told me on Facebook he hopes Trump gets in for one term.. I told him i hope he never gets near the WH, lol. Ha and then he told me he has nothing against Hillary and hopes Trump will choose her for VP, oh my!!!

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      • Jamie says:

        That is hilarious. Did you break the party affiliation news to him?

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      • Tony says:

        Lol, nope. I was speechless and dumbfounded.. How did he get to 40 and not understand the 2 party system?

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      • Jamie says:

        I have one lady friend who circulates all these various internet memes without checking them in any way (usually in a “did you know this?” state of panic). I spend an inordinate amount of time doing Google, Snopes, and News searches to talk her down off the ledge. 🙂

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      • patd says:

        tony, give cousin benefit of doubt since the trumpster is still considering the indie route and who knows who/what he’ll deign to designate as his #2. most likely tho’ a clone so as not to worry about a coup.

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    • patd says:

      from http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/01/06/trump-bill-clinton-sex-scandals-republican-women/78352482/
      Republican women have a message for Donald Trump: Enough with Bill Clinton’s sex scandals
      It’s not that they’re waving Trump off the issue to help Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton. On the contrary, they’re worried that the more Trump talks about a troubled period of the Clintons’ marital history, the more likely it could backfire and rally independent and even some Republican women to the side of the former first lady.
      [….]
      Women voters are likely to recoil over Trump’s contention in recent interviews that the former first lady was an “enabler” of her husband’s liaisons

      yep, it’s a rare woman who hasn’t lived thru similar sorry behavior of a beloved

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      • Jamie says:

        It always amazes me that these “family values” types attack Hillary for what … not divorcing and/or shooting Bill? She went through a rough stage, came out the other side, stayed friends with the husband and raised a beautiful successful child. Sounds like pretty good “values” to me.

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  21. patd says:

    from http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/06/trevor-noah-hits-fox-news-for-mocking-obama-s-tears-are-you-f-cking-kidding-me.html
    …., viewers saw Fox pundits like Andrea Tantaros and others asking why Obama didn’t show the same type of emotion after the Paris terrorist attacks and even suggesting that his tears were fake.
    “Are you fucking kidding me?” Noah asked in disbelief. “Shedding tears when you think of murdered children is not really believable? You know what, there is something here that’s not really believable: the fact that the rest of us have to share the title of human being with you.”

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  22. Flatus says:

    I feel ill:

    ” Webb2016 has retained former Draft Biden National Finance Director Sam Jones to lead fundraising operations for Jim Webb’s potential independent presidential candidacy.

    While no firm decision has been made about a run, Webb and staff have conducted a thorough study of the process for gaining access to ballots in an environment where the Democratic and Republican monopoly of the complicated state-by-state rules are designed to deny voters an independent choice.

    “After weeks of study, including consultations with ballot experts and independent activists around the country, we have a handle on what it takes to give voters in every state a real choice,” Webb spokesperson Craig Crawford said. “We are so pleased that Sam Jones is coming on board to help us examine what is now the decisive issue: How to pay for it.”

    Jones, who lives in Dallas, TX, crafted a nationwide network of donors last year that was poised to significantly boost a Biden presidential campaign, but the Vice President chose not to run. Prior to that effort Jones has worked on the fundraising side for a variety of national, state and local campaigns.

    “Americans deserve a new type of bold and honest leader, one who stands miles apart from the bitter theatrics we see before us today,” Jones said. “There is one proven leader who can rise above this mess. One who can make voters from all walks of life proud, regardless of their political affiliations. And that leader is Jim Webb. I’m honored to be a part of his team and this movement to restore sanity to the national discourse.

    The Webb Campaign has also partnered with Aristotle, a non-partisan, pioneering and leading international political technology enterprise run by John Aristotle Phillips and his brother, Dean Aristotle Phillips.

    Jim Webb left the Democratic nomination race late last year to pursue the possibility of an independent run, writing in a Washington Post Op-Ed:

    “Equal-opportunity disgust is at play here. … Far more Americans consider themselves to be political independents than Democrats or Republicans. … There can be no better answer to these developments than electing as president a tested, common-sense independent who can bring to Washington a bipartisan administration to break the gridlock paralyzing our political debates and restore the faith of our people in their leaders. (Washington Post, Oct. 30, 2015)

    Webb2016.com
    Twitter / Facebook

    Contact:
    Communications Director Craig Crawford
    craig@webb2016.com

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  23. patd says:

    from https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/jim-webb-takes-step-toward-independent-presidential-campaign/2016/01/07/ee8ed51e-b560-11e5-a76a-0b5145e8679a_story.html

    But running as an independent presents immense challenges, especially for a candidate ambivalent about the slog of the presidential campaign trail. Significant third-party campaigns in the past have been launched by personally wealthy self-financers like Ross Perot, famous political figures like Theodore Roosevelt or representatives of major constituencies like George Wallace.

    Webb has none of those advantages. While running as a Democrat, he never garnered much support in the national surveys. However, polling suggests he could have a significant effect on the race in his home state of Virginia, taking between 13 and 19 percent of the vote from the two major candidates.

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  24. Flatus says:

    His anger seems palpable. He is a spoiler, not someone determined to work within a system in a meaningful collaboration to better ‘our’ world.

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  25. rebelliousrenee says:

    IMO… the thought that Jim Webb could garner enough votes to spoil anything or anyone’s run is quite humorous.

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  26. Flatus says:

    Well, think of how the voting went in Florida not so many years ago–a chad here and a chad there.

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  27. blueINdallas says:

    Webb can call himself an Indy if he wants to, and, he may be right about most people considering themselves to be Indies, too. However, you still have to have something on the menu that folks want to order.

    Webb has some strong points; I can see him in a couple of positions, but not POTUS.

    Webb’s anger was whiny, too. There’s just something about his temperament that is off-putting. Plus, he is not green, at all. I respect Craig and wonder if I might be missing something, butI can’t see it.

    They just caught a terror suspect in Houston; an Iraqui.

    Has Hillary said anything about the New Year’s Eve assaults on women in Germany?

    I’m still a Bernie baby, but I think Jamie has a good ad there for Hillary: Msybe it’s time for a sensible grandmother to run things.

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    • Tony says:

      I agree, Webb is whiny.. Def respect Craig. I feel if Webb runs Indy they have all bumped their heads.. Lol, yes Jamie is on to something.. We all could use a sensible grandmother..

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  28. whskyjack says:

    So Trump and Webb fight it out for the redneck vote. I don’t see either one going much beyond that. Now if Webb had the reputation of a Michael Bloomberg. now there is an independent that could cause HRC trouble.

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  29. blueINdallas says:

    Jack – You are exactly right about Bloomberg.

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  30. Jamie says:

    Dueling networks. CNN has POTUS and MSNBC has Trump. POTUS was calm sane and responsive. Trump was the usual level of too rich for his own good trailer trash. Take you pick for re-watch

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  31. patd says:

    from https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/01/07/john-mccains-cold-blooded-revenge-on-ted-cruz/?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_fix-mccain-1140am%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
    Now, the media narrative becomes that it’s not just Donald Trump saying things because (a) he’s Donald Trump and (b) it’s in Trump’s political interest to attack Cruz since he trails him in Iowa. It’s the 2008 Republican presidential nominee who, oh by the way, went through a very real back and forth over his own eligibility to run back then.

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  32. patd says:

    regarding webb’s indy run, for some reason this song seems to apply

    jimmy, we hardly know ye anymore

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  33. Tony says:

    Taking the bait: Rush, Coulter among the gullible GOPers falling for Trump’s birther smear on Cruz
    The Cruz “birther” story is another alarming example of how Trump runs the news cycle by spouting off
    AMANDA MARCOTTE
    http://www.salon.com/2016/01/08/taking_the_bait_rush_coulter_among_the_gullible_gopers_falling_for_trumps_birther_smear_on_cruz/

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  34. Tony says:

    The Real Threat Trump Poses to Hillary—and Us
    The GOP frontrunner has found a way to dominate the news cycle with his lies and nutty clams, allowing him to rob our elections of their last bit of substance.
    Michael Tomasky
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/01/08/the-real-threat-trump-poses-to-hillary-and-us.html

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  35. patd says:

    from mouth of ¡Jeb! to ear of god

    “Donald Trump is a showman, he’s a phenomenal guy, he blocks out the sun effectively. He says outrageous things and the press, it’s like a moth to light…He is playing them like a find Stradivarius and it consumes all the news,” he said. He said it is time for the Republican race for the 2016 presidential nomination to take a turn for the serious.
    We have to get there pretty soon. Because if Donald Trump wins the nomination, and he might, Hillary Clinton will beat him like a drum. Just tear him up. It’ll be ugly to watch,” Bush said. http://blogs.reuters.com/talesfromthetrail/2016/01/07/bush-says-clinton-would-beat-trump-like-a-drum/

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  36. patd says:

    from http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKBN0UM17220160108
    U.S. presidential candidates are spending long days on the campaign trail and their nights in a succession of budget hotels, often in small towns. Not Donald Trump.
    After nearly every rally, the billionaire real estate developer hops into one of his planes or helicopters and returns to New York so that he can sleep in his own bed in his marble-and-gold-furnished Trump Tower apartment in Manhattan.

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  37. patd says:

    jack, how accurate is this charge at bbc of kc?
    “Kansas City is one of the country’s most segregated cities.”
    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35255835

    pretty glum story about u.s. progress along the lines of integration

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  38. rebelliousrenee says:

    Here’s Trump’s tv ad that started airing here a few days ago…

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    • whskyjack says:

      rallying the base but not reaching beyond. Trump needs a good turn out of independents in both Iowa and NH. Looking at recent polls half of his support is with the folks with no party preference. The majority of registered Republicans when ask if they would conscider voting for Trump said “Never”. I’m picking Trump to come in at #3 or lower in the NH primary

      Jack

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  39. whskyjack says:

    LOL
    Letter from an Oregon Militiaman

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  40. rebelliousrenee says:

    Jack…
    the majority of NHerites are registered as undeclared. Rick and I both are, and will sometimes take a Republican ballot in the presidential primary. Rick is considering taking one to vote for Kasich… he says someone has to want an adult running on the Republican side. But when it comes to any general election, we both vote Democratic. Most undeclared here actually vote mainly for one party. But us NHerites don’t like labels…. except to be called contrarians. 🙂

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    • Jamie says:

      If I were a NHerite, I would be voting for Kasitch as well. He is as close to a sane candidate that the GOP has on offer. Of course this means he doesn’t stand a chance.

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  41. patd says:

    from https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/public-safety/man-drove-a-truck-filled-with-weapons-to-dc-to-kidnap-obamas-dog-authorities-say/2016/01/08/0296bf20-b626-11e5-9388-466021d971de_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-more-top-stories_no-name%3Ahomepage%2Fstory
    Upon his arrest, Scott D. Stockert, 49, of Dickinson, N.D., made a series of outlandish claims to officers — that he was Jesus Christ, that he was the son of John F. Kennedy and Marilyn Monroe, that he planned to run for president, and that he was there to kidnap Bo or Sunny, the Obama’s dogs, the Secret Service said in a court document.

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  42. blueINdallas says:

    Trump wants zero gun-free zones. Meanwhile, Texas has a little problem with the new open carry law. It allows people to carry guns in psychiatric facilities. Oops.

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  43. patd says:

    http://www.cc.com/video-clips/bf30yu/the-daily-show-with-trevor-noah-birthers-target-ted-cruz
    Birthers Target Ted Cruz
    Donald Trump questions whether Canadian-born Ted Cruz is constitutionally eligible to become president, so Trevor enlists a founding father to settle the matter

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  44. rebelliousrenee says:

    NEW THREAD!

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