Agenda Free Weekend


Love this time of year in New Hampshire!


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75 Responses to Agenda Free Weekend

  1. rebelliousrenee says:

    Just received a post card in the mail that states Jim Webb and various other presidential and NH candidates will be in Manchester this upcoming Monday for a conference called “No Labels”.

    Won’t be able to make it… one of my nieces turns 30 the day before and we are having our last party for the year at the family camp to celebrate on the holiday Monday.


    • patd says:

      here’s the “no labels” online link which touts:
      On October 12, 2015, No Labels is hosting the first-ever, pre-primary gathering of Republican and Democratic presidential candidates at our Problem Solver Convention in Manchester, NH.
      At this historic event we will gather more than 1,000 Granite State voters for a day of panels, forums, and discussions featuring presidential candidates from both sides of the aisle.
      Join No Labels Co-Chairs Governor Jon Huntsman and Senator Joe Lieberman as we call upon these presidential candidates to commit to the No Labels process of goal setting and building a National Strategic Agenda.
      Our National Strategic Agenda is based upon four key policy goals that are a top priority for a majority of Americans:
      •Create 25 million new jobs over the next 10 years
      •Secure Social Security and Medicare for another 75 years
      •Balance the federal budget by 2030
      •Make America energy secure by 2024

      their announced participants:
      Donald Trump
      Bernie Sanders
      John Kasich
      Martin O’Malley
      Lindsey Graham
      Jim Webb
      Chris Christie
      George Pataki
      Raymond Buckley
      NH Democratic Party Chair
      Jennifer Horn
      NH Republican Party Chair


  2. patd says:

    Clinton proposes a four-pronged approach to tackling Wall Street: Increasing accountability by punishing criminal behavior, instituting a fee on excessive leverage and short-term borrowing, more oversight on hedge funds and investment banks and a tax on short-term trading.

    “People who commit serious financial crimes should face serious consequences, including big fines, disbarment from working in the industry and the prospect of imprisonment,” Clinton wrote, responding to liberals who question why no Wall Street executives went to jail for seemingly criminal behavior during the 2008 crash.


  3. tony says:

    It’s All Benghazi
    Paul Krugman
    “And once fiscal scare tactics started to lose political traction, even the pretense went away. Just look at the people seeking the Republican presidential nomination. One after another, they have been proposing giant tax cuts that would add trillions to the deficit.
    Debt, it seems, only matters when there’s a Democrat in the White House. Or more accurately, all the talk about debt wasn’t about fiscal prudence; it was about trying to inflict political damage on President Obama, and it stopped when the tactic lost effectiveness.”


  4. Jamie says:

    If you follow the links on the report and ignore the heavily slanted “supposition” end of the broadcast, it comes down to all of the people involved were not fired and were reassigned to other duties plus a lot of the problems had to do with on the ground decisions and lack of funding.


  5. patd says:

    well put, david

    MARK SHIELDS: ….. And so there is paralysis, quite honestly. And the party is in turmoil. And it has an implication nationally in the presidential election, because this is supposed to be the governing example of the Republicans.

    JUDY WOODRUFF: David, why has it gotten to this point?

    DAVID BROOKS: Well, as usual, Mark is not critical enough of the Republicans.


    DAVID BROOKS: It’s not that they don’t believe in the Democratic president. They don’t believe in the democratic process.

    There is a way you do elections. You have an argument. You have candidates. You evaluate the candidates. You have a vote, and the majority wins and the minority says, well, we didn’t get the majority, but, OK, we will go along because we believe in the greater good.

    Well, there are 40 people who don’t believe in that. McCarthy would have had the majority. And they said, no, we don’t care. We’re still going to — we’re not giving up. We’re just going to roadblock.

    And there has been a set of institutional practices that have been built up within that institution, and they’re just not playing by those rules. And so, as has been true of the Tea Party for a long time, they’re really good at destruction, they’re not so good at construction.

    And this is — to me, it’s deep. This has been a party, and particularly our entire political system, that’s lost the art of deliberative argument and then coming to conclusions. And to get elected, especially as a Republican, you have got to be anti-conservative, you have got to be radical, you have got to be revolutionary, you have got to be an outsider, your language has to be totally radical.

    JUDY WOODRUFF: And we’re seeing that in the presidential race.

    DAVID BROOKS: Right. And so if you adopt a radical rhetoric, then the normal practice of politics, which is compromise, which is accepting defeat for the greater good, all that stuff gets washed away.


    • jacew2003 says:

      How many times do republicans have to prove that they are good at getting elected, and lousy at governing before people stop electing them?


  6. patd says:

    “The office of speaker is the one House office that is subject to a vote by the full house,” Green explained. “Everybody in the House gets to vote for whoever they want. They don’t even have to vote for a member of Congress. They can vote for anybody.”

    okay, trail mixers, who do you think would be the best “anybody” out there to lead critterville? newtie redux? nancy? how about….


  7. Flatus says:

    Any Republican who can compellingly discredit the Hastert Rule to the satisfaction of other Republicans.


    • Jamie says:

      Boehner has nothing to lose, time to bring on Nancy to get some laws passed that everyone can accept if only to kick the Freedom Caucus in the rear for being useless.


  8. Flatus says:

    Where I sit, my house is in the midst of a windless thunderstorm with rain falling at a torrential rate.


    • patd says:

      flatus, if you (as others in columbia area I hear) are under the boil water edict, maybe that rain could be a blessing drinkable wise…. that is if it’s not acid rain.


  9. patd says:

    As tension built in the House of Representatives in recent weeks, it was sometimes hard to know whom hard-line conservatives were gunning for more: President Obama or their own Republican speaker, John A. Boehner.
    As it turns out, their target is the institution of the speaker of the House itself.


  10. tony says:

    Column Can Hillary Clinton change the gun debate?
    Doyle McManus
    “Clinton’s new focus on gun control is, in part, a gambit to make sure progressive voters notice that her main opponent, Sen. Bernie Sanders, has a complicated record on the issue. Sanders, who represents the gun-friendly state of Vermont, supports background checks and the assault-weapons ban, too, but unlike Clinton, he voted in 2005 to pass the liability exemption bill for manufacturers.

    Beyond short-term tactics, Clinton’s militancy also illustrates that gun control is no longer a political third rail for Democrats.”


  11. tony says:

    The Republican Party’s Dysfunction Is an Embarrassment to Us All
    By Brian Beutler
    “Assuming Ryan sticks to his guns and refuses the speakership (and that Boehner will ultimately resign, whether or not a new speaker has been elected), rank and file Republicans are going to have to take a serious look at forming a temporary coalition with Democrats.

    At this point, Congress accomplishes little more than the bare minimum required to maintain status quo governance. Sometimes it’s unable to muster even that (see the Export-Import Bank, for just one example). But this thin record isn’t the bragging right of the Republican Party. It’s a bipartisan effort. And in the House, it’s mostly a Democratic one. The onus is on Democrats to supply most of the votes for the handful of things Congress actually does.”


  12. tony says:

    Hillary Clinton Is About To Get Two Key Chances To Quiet Her Skeptics
    It’s her opportunity to shore up support among progressives while beating back conservative opposition.
    Amanda Terkel and Sam Stein
    “While the primary has been a polite affair so far, especially compared to the Republican race, the debate will be the first chance for voters to evaluate the candidates side by side. The Clinton campaign is focused on highlighting her progressive positions while also showing that she is the best-equipped to turn campaign proposals into governing realities.

    The second test comes the following week, when Clinton will testify before the House Select Committee on Benghazi. The appearance has long been viewed as an opportunity for her to lay out her side of the story and counter Republican lawmakers who risk the very real chance of overplaying their hand and appearing as if they’re on a partisan hunt. “


    • jacew2003 says:

      Nothing Hillary says about Benghazi will quiet the skeptics. This is the same Hillary who is responsible for the death of Vince Foster, and stealing the White House silver ware.

      A little skepticism can be a healthy thing, but this is not about skepticism this is about character assassination and it is being paid for by the American taxpayer and validated in the halls of congress.

      Travesty best describes the entire episode.


      • tony says:

        I couldn’t have said it better! Amazing after all these years the Republican playbook remains the same.. What’s even more amazing is the steady drumbeat of negative works on the press and the public.. Its why they do it..


  13. tony says:

    The trouble with Bernie
    A moralizing scold, but for the left
    “After discussing his favorite issues — corporations, government reform, health care and the like, I asked about his unwillingness to endorse his fellow progressives. He said it wasn’t his role. I suggested voters might expect him to weigh in. He disagreed, clearly annoyed at the persistent questioning. Finally I suggested that he had a larger moral responsibility to the progressive movement.

    At which point he jumped out of his seat, told me to go f*** myself and stormed out of the edit board meeting. OK, maybe my persistence bordered on hectoring. But I felt he ought to provide an honest answer. My suspicion was that he resented others for assuming his mantle of progressive leadership and wouldn’t acknowledge them.

    He returned to the meeting about five minutes after the outburst and we continued to discuss issues of the day.

    The candidate you see on television working crowds, shaking hands and even smiling has undergone a presidential campaign conversion. And there is no doubt that Sanders is a smart, deft politician riding a popular, populist wave. But what is real?”


  14. blueINdallas says:

    Just read an article in Mother Jobes, questioning (as have others here) whether or not Webb is actually running for prez. If they are trying to stay under the radar for some reason, they have succeeded.
    SC prepare. The water rose for weeks here after last spring’s flooding rains. It already looks much worse and more widespread there. Hope Sturgeon & Flatus are out of harm’s way/on high ground.
    Maybe, in addition to keeping guns out of the hands of the unstable, we need to deal with the isolation, the lack of tools to deal with relationships, other outlets for overwhelming frustration and anger. Instead of horrible, violent TV shows devoted to unhealthy relationships, crime sprees, and, violent fantasies/zombies, etc., we should have shows that teach give-and-take in relationships, compassion, mentally healthy people. It’s a scientific principle: Garbage in, garbage out.


  15. patd says:

    jace you’re so right re the been gauzy gangbang: “this is about character assassination and it is being paid for by the American taxpayer”

    according to
    After 17 months and more than $4.5 million, the House Select Committee on Benghazi has finally cost someone their job.
    It wasn’t Hillary Clinton, and it wasn’t even a Democrat. It was House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.),….

    4.5 million? just think how many new cops on the block, teachers in classes, homeless veterans off the streets 4.5 mil buckaroos would buy…. whatta waste. 😦


  16. tony says:

    “Were you molested by a real estate lady?” Bill Maher and Andrew Sullivan’s shocking Hillary Clinton clash
    “Why do you hate her so much?” Maher asked Sullivan. “Were you molested by a real estate lady?!” VIDEO
    Here is a perfect example of the hate on the right for Hillary.. Let me say how much i have long despised this shameful conservative gay man! Lol, Bush and his gay marriage stance turned him away from his beloved Bush.. Yep, when it affected him.. Ignorant Hater.. I’m so ashamed of him as a gay man..


  17. tony says:

    Hillary Clinton’s move left is no flip-flop
    “Today, however, the political equation has shifted and, rather than a dash to the center, Hillary Clinton is being pushed to stake out more liberal positions – and she’s delivering. She’s embracing Sanders’ talk about income equality, has stepped up partisan attacks against her GOP rivals, and offered an unabashed defense of Planned Parenthood. On the issue of guns, she’s moved to outflank Sanders, who has a decidedly mixed record on gun control, from the left. It’s a far cry from the last few election cycles, when Democrats couldn’t run fast enough away from a pro-gun-control position.”


  18. patd says:

    and now this on top of the other chaos… time to pop some more popcorn, maybe order a pizza and a six pack or two. gonna be a long, long show.

    The Republican leaders of a House committee who have been in a bitter partisan battle with Democrats are enmeshed in a new fight with one of the committee’s former staff members.

    A former investigator for the Republicans on the House Select Committee on Benghazi plans to file a complaint in federal court next month alleging that he was fired unlawfully in part because his superiors opposed his efforts to conduct a comprehensive investigation into the 2012 attack on the American diplomatic mission in the Libyan city rather than focus primarily on the role of the State Department and former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton.

    The former investigator, Bradley F. Podliska, a major in the Air Force Reserve who is on active duty in Germany, also claims that the committee’s majority staff retaliated against him for taking leave for several weeks to go on active duty. If true, the retaliation would violate the federal Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act of 1994, which Major Podliska plans to invoke in his complaint, according to a draft that was made available to The New York Times.

    The case is now in a confidential mediation phase, limiting what the Republican-led staff can publicly say about the matter.


  19. blueINdallas says:

    Lyin’ Ryan has his eye on the WH down the road. He don’t need no stinkin’ Speakership to mess it up.

    Just because someone goes after Hillary, doesn’t mean it’s because she’s a woman. She’s a Clinton. (It doesn’t mean they don’t have a problem with her because of her gender, either.)

    Why are we wasting half-a-billion dollars training Syrians to fight? How do we know who were raining and how those arms will be used? Russia sunk a lot of money into Afghanistan; we didn’t learn from their mistake. Russia is playing us now. Get out and stay out.


  20. blueINdallas says:

    Yep. Hillary copied off of Bernie’s paper. Shaky ground there; not a sound platform in which she believes.
    I know that what Bernie stands for now is what he will stand for in the future. I have no such sense of security with Hillary.


    • tony says:

      “I know that what Bernie stands for now is what he will stand for in the future.”
      Many said the same of Barack Obama, lol.. Hillary is a politician, so is Bernie.. Glad Hillary moves left for whatever reason.. Let the best person win.. I like them all, well except Jim Webb, like him but not for President..


  21. jacew2003 says:

    Best read of the day so far and so totally spot on. Scorched earth politics at it’s best or rather worst.


  22. tony says:

    In Debate, Hillary Clinton Will Display Skills Honed Over a Lifetime
    By AMY CHOZICKOCT. 9, 2015


  23. patd says:

    blueid, you said above: “Lyin’ Ryan has his eye on the WH down the road.”
    as 3rd in line to assume the title, he would be as close to being prez as he will ever get imho….unless of course the crazies are dastardly plotting something ugly and untoward.

    blue, you questioned Hillary’s liberalism (“Hillary copied off of Bernie’s paper…not a sound platform in which she believes”) ignoring her lifetime history of being despised for being a liberal… starting with a very early in youth conversion to martin luther king’s crusade for civil rights, pushing for universal healthcare, working for women’s equality… and all well before we ever heard of Bernie. there’s plenty of room on the liberal express for both.


    • tony says:

      So true regarding Hillary being despised for being a liberal.. I mean the woman doesn’t get a break, either she’s a nasty Liberal or she’s Republican lite, inauthentic, without accomplishment, and so on and so on..


  24. patd says:

    all aboard the lib-rul express… 2016 or bust


  25. patd says:

    btw, above was from the “big easy express” a long form music vid: 3 bands, 6 cities, 1 train, and thousands of miles of track…the BIG EASY EXPRESS documents a cinematic musical journey….Part road movie and part concert film, BIG EASY EXPRESS bears witness to the birth of a new musical era


  26. tony says:

    In Debate Preview, Bernie Sanders Criticizes Hillary Clinton for Iraq Vote
    Oh Bernie, this is so 2008.. Surely Bernie has more foreign policy experience, lol, not..


  27. jacew2003 says:

    Sunday Serendipity.

    An energetic work by Schubert. A nice Sunday morning change of pace.
    Enjoy the music and enjoy the day!


  28. rebelliousrenee says:

    I don’t care who says what about Hillary… I’m votin’ for her…. so there (sticking my tongue out and giving a raspberry)… 🙂


  29. tony says:

    Ex-Benghazi Investigator Says U.S. Panel Targeted Clinton
    “They said Major Bradley Podliska, an intelligence officer in the Air Force Reserve on active duty in Germany, alleged that he was fired for resisting pressure to focus his investigation into the 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic compound in Benghazi on Clinton’s role. They said he planned to file a complaint in federal court next month.

    “These are explosive allegations,” Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon said in a statement. “This Republican whistleblower’s account from inside the Benghazi Committee may provide the most definitive proof to date that this taxpayer-funded investigation has been a partisan sham from the start.”

    The committee on Saturday strongly denied the media reports.”


    • jacew2003 says:

      This investigation is as much about Benghazi as the Starr chamber was about a real estate deal gone bad. It’s a get Clinton tool and has been from day one.


  30. blueINdallas says:

    The American Religious Town Hall topic was about the responsibility of religious groups with regard to climate change.
    There was only one dissenter as far as admitting to the science behind the human footprint accelerating the problem. He was a Baptist minister who, during his summation, admitted that his daughter was an “environmentalist” for a coal company, helping to “reclaim” land after it has been stripped of the resource in question to make it ready for resale to “anyone who could pay the price.”
    The rabbi, the Catholic priest, the Seventh Day Adventist, the Episcopalian, and, the pastor from the Disciples of Christ all accepted the science. They all acknowledged the need for personal responsibility, as well as committal within their groups toward Earth-friendly actions. Some slready have programs in place, such as community gardens. Pretty interesting to listen to one of them talk about the rich man willful long ignoring the starving man living in squalor outside his gate. The, apparently, pro-fossil fuel Baptist was not the one telling that story.
    And then there is Ben Carson, who despite his medical background, seems to shun science, not to mention common sense.
    I suspect Hillary will get the nomination and I will be voting for her in the general, but not in the primary. I will give my honest opinion in the primary vote.

    Hillary is no Obama. Please, she was and is so much more capable than Obama. He was an empty suit and Hillary was the better candidate in 2008. This time, I feel that Bernie is better than Hillary in relation to my views.
    Joaquin Castro has had PSAs airing here. What have I been saying for 3 years? Clinton/Castro. Webb as her SOS?

    Why are they trying to overturn the ban on oil exports? Leave the stuff in the ground & start developing green tech.

    Ryan is gonna make ’em beg to be Speaker. Heartless scumbag.


    • tony says:

      Great post.. Bernie is def a good choice to vote for.. Lol, you have been saying Clinton/Castro, haha..


      • Jamie says:

        I’m on the Clinton/Castro bandwagon as well except that I will be casting my three votes for Hillary in the primary: One of the advantages of being the political activist in the family (“Here you go, I signed the ballot Mom”). Once upon a time, I would have made a good Ward Heeler. 🙂


  31. patd says:
    This Document Reveals Why The House Of Representatives Is In Complete Chaos

    the article goes on to link the freedom caucus questionnaire which was published by politico at

    21 gotcha questions for the wannabe speakers. a litmus test for sure for disaster!
    please pass the popcorn bowl and a dribble more butter, it’s getting curiouser and curiouser.


  32. patd says:

    a little reading for the upcoming holiday from
    Indigenous Peoples Day support grows across US as states recognize holiday
    More states officially acknowledge that Columbus Day as a federal holiday overlooks a painful history for Native Americans
    Encouraged by city council votes in Minneapolis and Seattle last year, Native American activists made a push in dozens of cities in recent months to get local leaders to officially recognise the second Monday of October as Indigenous Peoples Day. Their success was mixed.

    so tomorrow, have a happy Indigenous Peoples Day everybody!


  33. blueINdallas says:

    Ha! My ex-boyfriend voted for Bill Clinton. I got him, as well as many in my office, registered. (This was when you could get registration applications at the post office. Maybe you still can. IDK.) He came back from the polls and told me he had voted for “my guy.” I never once asked him to vote for Bill, but somehow, coming from a far-right family, he voted for Clinton. 😂


  34. patd says:

    californy now has automatic voter registration
    Gov. Jerry Brown acted Saturday to increase participation in California elections and help prevent shootings at colleges, approving automatic voter registration and banning concealed weapons on campuses.
    Brown also approved the nation’s toughest restriction against the use of antibiotics in healthy farm animals.


  35. whskyjack says:

    Understanding your enemy, a CBS interview with Charles Koch
    imo it was half rich guy machismo and half 2 yr old whine. I don’t know which was more annoying


  36. patd says:

    from last year’s “last week tonight” but relevant today. happy indigenous people’s day, y’all


  37. tony says:

    Clinton Emails Became the New Focus of Benghazi Inquiry


  38. patd says:

    actually, a more accurate name than Columbus day or indigenous peoples day would be imo “immigrants day” since we or our ancestors (including our native american ones) were at one time immigrants to what is now the yoo ess of a. didn’t sean (aka liberal lardass) have a tee shirt saying such?

    btw and nothing to do with the above suggestion, there is a rumor being bandied about by the crazies relating to immigrants day and the prez which is discussed and debunked at snopes


  39. should be queen isabella;s day she paid for the trip


  40. patd says:


    In Sunday evening’s Last Week Tonight, John Oliver went after the state of North Dakota, or as he called it, “south of Canada.” The state has been experiencing both a boom and bust thanks to an uptick in oil drilling and fracking. Boom because it’s making people a ton of money and reduces the dependency on foreign oil. A bust because it’s literally destroying the state and killing people.


  41. patd says:

    and now for our commercial break


  42. tony says:

    Beyond Iowa & New Hampshire, Clinton Crushes in South Carolina & Nevada
    Taylor Marsh

    “In both Nevada and South Carolina, Clinton holds double-digit advantages as the candidate who would do the best job handling the economy, health care, race relations, foreign policy and climate change, and is broadly seen as the candidate with the best chance to win in 2016 (58% say so in South Carolina, 59% in Nevada). [CNN]
    IT IS tempting to focus on national polling, but it hardly tells the picture. What does is that beyond New Hampshire, where Bernie Sanders is solidly ahead, and Iowa, where Clinton still leads by 11, the next two states, Nevada and South Carolina, are setting up to bolster Hillary Clinton through her strengths with minority voters.

    In both Nevada and South Carolina, Clinton holds double-digit advantages as the candidate who would do the best job handling the economy, health care, race relations, foreign policy and climate change, and is broadly seen as the candidate with the best chance to win in 2016 (58% say so in South Carolina, 59% in Nevada). [CNN]
    The Democratic debate on Tuesday comes after President Obama had a serious interview with Steve Kroft on “60 Minutes,” which revealed what will continue to wash over the Democratic candidates. The strength of President Obama’s continued leadership, as Americans listen to reports that Putin has flexed his considerably weaker geopolitical hand inside Syria and the Middle East, reflects on all the candidates, especially Hillary Clinton.

    Steve Kroft: A year ago when we did this interview, there was some saber-rattling between the United States and Russia on the Ukrainian border. Now it’s also going on in Syria. You said a year ago that the United States– America leads. We’re the indispensible nation. Mr. Putin seems to be challenging that leadership.

    President Barack Obama: In what way? Let– let’s think about this– let– let–

    Steve Kroft: Well, he’s moved troops into Syria, for one. He’s got people on the ground. Two, the Russians are conducting military operations in the Middle East for the first time since World War II–

    President Barack Obama: So that’s–

    Steve Kroft: –bombing the people– that we are supporting.

    President Barack Obama: So that’s leading, Steve? Let me ask you this question. When I came into office, Ukraine was governed by a corrupt ruler who was a stooge of Mr. Putin. Syria was Russia’s only ally in the region. And today, rather than being able to count on their support and maintain the base they had in Syria, which they’ve had for a long time, Mr. Putin now is devoting his own troops, his own military, just to barely hold together by a thread his sole ally. And in Ukraine–

    Steve Kroft: He’s challenging your leadership, Mr. President. He’s challenging your leadership–

    President Barack Obama: Well Steve, I got to tell you, if you think that running your economy into the ground and having to send troops in in order to prop up your only ally is leadership, then we’ve got a different definition of leadership. My definition of leadership would be leading on climate change, an international accord that potentially we’ll get in Paris. My definition of leadership is mobilizing the entire world community to make sure that Iran doesn’t get a nuclear weapon. And with respect to the Middle East, we’ve got a 60-country coalition that isn’t suddenly lining up around Russia’s strategy. To the contrary, they are arguing that, in fact, that strategy will not work.
    Leadership, that’s the question for all the Democratic candidates on Tuesday.

    When you look at what’s going on in the Republican party, especially in the House, the idea of leadership seems to be something different. Republicans are once again having an internecine war between the hard right who thinks governing has nothing to do with working with the majority of the country who doesn’t agree with you.

    CNN has already said they’re not expecting the ratings Republicans get, which illustrates the differences in the primary race between the big two parties.

    Democrats are trying to decide whether to go establishment or outsider, while Republicans can’t admit that the outsider who has been winning for months and months is someone most of the party doesn’t want to claim as their own.

    Clinton, Sanders, O’Malley, Webb and Lessig will meet on Tuesday, but the only candidate right now with long and deep support is Hillary Clinton.

    The composition of the CNN moderators will make for a different debate than when Jake Tapper steered the Republican debate. That is the wild card for Clinton. You just can’t know what Don Lemon will ask on any given day.”


  43. tony says:

    Hillary Clinton’s Summer of Decline Had an Upside
    Lynn Vavreck
    “A quarter of her May supporters abandoned her over the summer, but she also picked up nearly half that many voters from her rivals. Moreover, a large majority of Mrs. Clinton’s supporters, 75 percent, stuck with her throughout the summer despite the rising popularity of Senator Bernie Sanders and the potential candidacy of Vice President Joe Biden.

    Of the nearly 700 Democrats in the survey, 73 percent stuck with their initial choices over the summer, and 23 percent shopped around at least once. Mrs. Clinton was not alone in holding on to her early fans. Mr. Sanders kept 85 percent of his May voters, and Mr. Biden maintained 72 percent of his supporters. Of course, Mrs. Clinton started with many more voters than the others, and Mr. Biden has not yet said if he will enter the race. Voters may start to shift around more if Mr. Biden jumps in or after they see the candidates up close in Tuesday’s prime-time debate.”


  44. tony says:

    October 06, 2015
    Clinton leads every Democrat under the sun
    “We also tested Clinton head to head against Biden, Sanders, Gore, Warren, and Kerry. Biden comes the closest- in a head to head against Clinton he trails only 51/38. No one else can come within 20 points of Clinton when it comes to a one on one contest. Sanders trails 54/34, Warren 58/28, Gore 67/22, and Kerry 69/17. That’s not to say Democratic voters don’t like these other faces. Gore has a 62/21 favorability rating, Kerry a 57/20 one, and Warren comes in at 51/18. But for the most part Democrats are content with nominating Clinton next year and aren’t looking for some new face (beyond possibly Biden) to enter the race so they can flock to them”


  45. tony says:

    Hillary Clinton Makes Surprise Appearance At Donald Trump Protest
    It was right outside his Las Vegas hotel.
    Amanda Terkel


  46. patd says:

    new thread

    (I think)


  47. tony says:

     Showdown: What Will We Learn From the First Clinton-Sanders Debate?
    A liberal will square off against a socialist atop the most progressive Democratic field in most of our lifetimes.
    By Joan Walsh


  48. tony says:

    Under Pressure From Clinton, Bernie Sanders Softens on Gun Rights
    In a twist of fate, the democratic socialist finds himself chasing Clinton to the left.


  49. tony says:

    If Jim Webb Hates Politics So Much, Why Is He Running?
    Friends say he has an overwhelming compulsion to serve his country—stronger even than his visceral dislike for campaigning.


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