Another Week of Conversation

My favorite Paul Williams song simply because it is about finding people and sharing. Have at it gang. It’s going to be a long political season and the west coast really needs rain.

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53 Responses to Another Week of Conversation

  1. patd says:

    Jamie, not to worry about California waterwise but woe be for Washington state, according to http://www.cbsnews.com/news/el-nino-california-drought/
    Government scientists say there is a 95 percent chance that a strong El Nino weather condition is forming in the Pacific Ocean and will continue through the winter. It could bring much-needed rain to the drought-ravaged West, CBS News’ Ben Tracy reports.
    The water in California’s Lake Oroville used to be much higher, but the Golden State’s reservoirs are running on empty. They’ve lost 6 trillion gallons of water during four years of punishing drought.
    But wild and wet winter weather is now in the forecast for California, thanks to the intense warming of the Pacific Ocean near the equator known as El Nino.
    NASA oceanographer Bill Patzert said El Nino should bring rain to California, but the Pacific Northwest, which has been ravaged by wildfires, is forecast to be drier than normal this winter.

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  2. patd says:

    tony, from http://www.mediaite.com/tv/scarborough-and-media-matters-david-brock-spar-over-hillary-clintons-email/
    Brock continued to attack The New York Times for reporting on the various Clinton scandals– or as he put it, pushing “nothingburgers”– and blamed Clinton’s poor poll numbers on “a relentless campaign of distortion that’s gone on for six months.”

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  3. patd says:

    reasonable explanation for some of the interagency uproar from http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/hillary-clinton-gmail-google-classified-content-213458

    Part of what is playing out in the furor over Clinton’s emails is a culture clash between intelligence agencies that allow little or no interaction with the public by their employees and places like State or the White House that must regularly engage journalists, foreign officials and think tanks.

    “The fact that the intelligence community inspector general is involved in this means you’re basically applying different rules from different universes. You have one universal classification system, but it applies quite differently in different agencies,” the former State official said.

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    • Jamie says:

      Dealt with classified material for more than five years and it can get completely crazy when the Defense Dept gets into the mix. Over classification runs rampant and at the low “confidential” rating something can be classified in one context and for general distribution to everyone in another. Once you move up to Secret and Top Secret and whether it is internal or external, you just turn your extra bedroom into a comfortably padded cell.

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  4. blondewino says:

    Kim Davis can get a job at Hobby Lobby. 80K/year? Another example of a feeding tube that has been into the government way too long. It also explains the rise of the non-politician candidates into the primaries. A grass root, term limits movement. Yes, the experience of the inexperience of the newbies will be more costly than a ten boatloads of lobbyists.

    Once again we must also look at taxing churches…they have decided to become political, so they must pay like the rest of us.

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  5. yesterday morning the phone kept ringing very early and neither of us heard it — finally Mr. C checked the answering machine and found out there was a wildland fire near us…and we should prepare to evacuate. The fire was put out and we did not have to leave but the couple of hours when we were trying to figure out what to do were pretty funny. We are not prepared for evacuating we’ve been getting ready to be stuck during the El Nino winter. What to take ?
    We couldn’t even find three leashes for the dogs let alone a carrier for the cat. I decided I would take my purse and my laptop

    How about the Labor in Britan a socialist is there new leader –good news for Bernie although if the idiot media would stop swiftboating Clinton and accurately report on the email kerfuffle Bernie will not beat herr

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    • patd says:

      wow, what a nightmare. just smelling a fire at long distance is too close for comfort for me. am a nervous wreck anytime forestry folk want to do “control burns” which get out of control too often.
      any way to fix your phone to ring louder or flash or vibrate?

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    • Jamie says:

      Glad to hear it turned out well. My son being something of a preparedness nut actually has a “grab and go” shelves in the garage with boxed supplies. If necessary we could be out of the house in five minutes. A lot would be lost but it would only be a matter of adding “nice to have” stuff as time allowed.

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  6. blondewino says:

    Glad to hear you are okay, KGC. Time for an evacuation plan. The first thing for us? Prescription drugs for the hubby and dog. Here is a good site for creating a plan.
    http://www.readyforwildfire.org/evacuation_steps/wildfire_action_plan

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  7. patd says:

    speaking of religion, this from http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/church-hillary-clinton-learns-nicer-press/story?id=33727039
    “I got some advice from Dr. Wogaman just earlier this morning, which I promise I will put into effect,” Clinton, a lifelong Methodist, remarked from the pulpit, referring to former pastor J. Philip Wogaman. “Basically he said, if you’re going to read and listen to Romans 12 you got to be nicer to the press.”
    Clinton, who is often criticized for her tense relationship with the media, added: “So, to my friends in the press, I will certainly take that to heart.”

    wonder which of the 21 verses of rom. 12 she meant. any of these might be applicable:
    14 Bless them which persecute you: bless, and curse not.
    19 Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord.
    20 Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

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  8. I am stuck in Toledo caring for huge dogs as my wife is recuperating from knee repl. In Columbus. She has been wanting this for 15 years,and we finally found a doctor who operates on CMT patients. Cleveland Clinic was the place .
    I have been on so darn many bandwagons…Clean Gene,George Mc, Mike Dukakis, Howard Dean, Al Gore…I would love to be with Bernie…this old dog just has seen too many fires be squashed

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  9. Someone should get John Kerry talking about the swiftboat campaign and how the same thing is being done to Clinton. Reporters know there is nothing to the story but they are pretending they don’t know. the media on a whole are disgusting. Now there is a whole new generation of blonde Hillary haters some of tthese women I think Kathleen Parker in particular need to get a life

    Clinton needs to get the elected women who support her on a press tour again to talk about her being lied about in the media —

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  10. thanks for that list BW hope all is well with you
    and everyone else for the good wishes
    the fire to the east of us is very scary and still burning out of control

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  11. Flatus says:

    MJ really ticks me off. Last week he had Harold as a guest and just talked all over him. He was somewhat better this morning. Still, he has become insufferable.

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    • Jamie says:

      I tune in to MJ for first 15 minutes to hear lineup and then when they bash Hillary immediately switch to Chris Cuomo on New Day. Much better show and easier on the blood pressure.

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  12. Flatus says:

    For the folks out West. Always keep your fuel tank mostly full. Have sleeping bags for each of you. Put stuff in a safe deposit vault–it might be really difficult finding the remains of a dwelling much less a safe even if it survived. Be positive.

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  13. rebelliousrenee says:

    We have a small portable metal box that contains all of our important papers…. birth certificates, marriage license, passports, title to cars, house, etc…. that we can grab quickly in case of fire.

    We are building a 2-car garage that has been almost finished for 3 weeks. Our contractor… who is also a fire fighter… was asked to go west to help fight the fires. At first he didn’t want to go until he finished our garage… but we urged him that it could wait and gave him our blessing to go. He should be back to finish next week.

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  14. patd says:

    meanwhile downunder and tomorrow already
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/15/world/asia/tony-abbott-liberal-party-australia.html?_r=0
    SYDNEY, Australia — Malcolm Turnbull, a former investment banker and lawyer, was poised to become the prime minister of Australia on Monday night after defeating Tony Abbott in a vote of Liberal Party lawmakers.
    The vote was the second challenge to Mr. Abbott’s leadership in seven months. He came to power in September 2013.
    Mr. Turnbull, 60, is a moderate Liberal whose views, most recently on same-sex marriage, had conflicted with those of Mr. Abbott, 57. The Liberals, despite their name, are the more conservative of Australia’s two major parties.
    The new prime minister is likely to be more open to the outside world and less conservative in approach than Mr. Abbott.
    Michael Fullilove, the executive director at the Lowy Institute for International Policy in Sydney, said that “when it comes to foreign policy issues, he is less Manichean, in the sense of being black and white, less prone to seeing the world through a security prism.”
    He said Mr. Turnbull was also more alert to the risks of climate change. And while he would have to convince conservative colleagues of the need for a change in government policy, Dr. Fullilove described him as a “force.”

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  15. patd says:

    from http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/movies/2015/09/13/michael-moore-toronto-film-festival/72045652/
    Michael Moore makes hay in his new documentary, Where to Invade Next, looking at smarter ways of living elsewhere in the world that, if co-opted, could make America a better place.
    By the end of the film, which had its world premiere Thursday at the Toronto International Film Festival, Moore makes one thing very apparent: When women are in power, everything runs a little better.

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  16. oy oy oyoyoy Ahnold is the new host of the apprentice

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    • Jamie says:

      Hate the show but whatever you think of Ahnold either politically or personally, he is an excellent business man. Can’t help but wonder what they are going to “apprentice” … The Santa Monica Mall?

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  17. blueINdallas says:

    Ms. Crackers, I’m glad you guys are OK.
    Dexter, A speedy recovery to your Mrs.

    I’ve been enjoying the Trump circus. His supporters and protestors supporters at his stop in Dallas have been interesting. My favorite comment was from a supporter who the Trump should “be” the doctor,. Maybe he meant “beat” Dr. Carson, but I thought he meant Dr. Who and couldn’t stop laughing.

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  18. patd says:

    dexter, how are you and the “huge dogs” doing?

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  19. patd says:

    and the voice of the turtle is heard in our land

    McConnell’s fall mandate: Keep calm, avert catastrophe
    In a POLITICO interview, the Senate leader says the GOP can do big things — in 2017. Until then, his agenda is more modest.
    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/mitch-mcconnell-agenda-2015-shutdown-213582

    however, his noisy neighbors aren’t buying it

    House GOP obsessed with Boehner’s future
    The speaker’s allies believe he’s being blackmailed by hardliners.
    http://www.politico.com/story/2015/09/john-boehner-future-as-speaker-2015-213602

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  20. voice of the turtle pretty funny

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  21. patd says:

    speaking of impersonations and mockery

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  22. patd says:

    http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/politics/2015/09/15/donald-trump-continues-immigration-rant-says-us-dumping-ground-for-rest-world/
    “You people are suffering,” Trump told the Texans. “I’m in New York, but they’re in New York, too. They’re all over the place.”

    from http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/note-clash-trump/story?id=33752950
    THOUSANDS RALLY FOR TRUMP, PROTESTERS CLASH OVER IMMIGRATION POLICY: A nasty protest broke out last night over immigration after the Donald Trump rally in Dallas, Texas, ABC’s JOHN SANTUCCI reports. Anti-Trump protesters chanted “Dump the Trump” as police mounted on horses sought to defuse the situation.

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  23. patd says:

    they? who are they, donald, those dreaded they? latinos, the poor, women? true, they are “all over the place” and hopefully they will vote. but not for you.

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  24. tonyb39 says:

    The media’s Clinton deathwatch continues: Behind her “problems” with female voters
    Clinton’s lead among women over Sanders and Biden hovers around 20 percent. Obviously she’s doomed!
    JOAN WALSH
    http://www.salon.com/2015/09/15/the_medias_clinton_deathwatch_continues_behind_her_problems_with_female_voters/

    “Clinton’s campaign could in fact be doomed – the Beltway media is certainly invested in dooming it, and the non-stop coverage of her email non-scandal is taking a toll. But there’s nothing shocking, or fatal, about the drop in her support among female voters.

    First of all, Clinton only won the women’s vote narrowly in 2008, besting Barack Obama by just 2 percent. So by that comparison, she’s still doing fantastically well among women. Her 71 percent share of the Democratic women’s vote was always illusory; it reflected her unrivaled name recognition, Sanders’ relative obscurity, and the now-outdated assumption that Biden wouldn’t run.

    It’s also worth noting that her biggest decline is among white women — only 37 percent of Democratic-leaning white women now say they support her, as opposed to 60 percent of Democratic-leaning women of color.”

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  25. bluINdallas says:

    Jeb! is referring to himself as a “joyful tortoise.”

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    • tonyb39 says:

      KGC
      Your exactly correct! Remember Kerry, Dems never effectively fought back, lol, they let the wind surfer blow in the wind.. Dems give in and fret.. Republicans stand together and if its Trump they mostly all will stand behind him.. Even though i wasn’t Obama’s greatest fan, i voted for him and defended him against the Republican onslaught of nasty..

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  26. tonyb39 says:

    Hillary Clinton
    ‏@HillaryClinton
    While others attack, insult, and denigrate—today we proudly celebrate the beginning of Hispanic Heritage Month. Sí se puede. -H

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  27. Jamie says:

    Tomorrow is the second GOP. Do we have a designated victim (watcher) who would like to write about the whole thing for Thursday?

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    • patd says:

      Jamie, be merciful and let it be 2 assignments, one for the kiddies’ table (probably the better gig) and one for the section 8 crew. watching both would surely be detrimental to one’s mental health.
      wonder if cnn’s benefits package for debate workers and liability for their audience covers brain damage injuries.

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      • Jamie says:

        I’m trying to decide if excessive drinking will help or if the brain damage from the debate combined with the brain damage from the alcohol would be fatal.

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  28. patd says:

    from http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/court-again-denies-kim-davis-bid-to-delay-marriage-licenses/ar-AAelMVC?ocid=spartanntp
    Embattled Kentucky clerk Kim Davis “has not demonstrated a substantial likelihood of success” in her legal bid to exempt her office from licensing same-sex marriages, a federal appeals court reiterated Tuesday.
    One day after Davis returned to work following a stint in jail for defying a federal judge, the Sixth Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals shot down another of her requests to delay issuing the licenses.

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  29. patd says:

    tony, thanks for the salon article. walsh is right on with this:

    Finally, Clinton has endured a non-stop drumbeat of faux-scandals that can’t help but take its toll on her standing with all voters, including women. Even as major news organizations have had to walk back their charges of criminal investigations into Clinton’s use of a private email server; even as it took those news organizations four days to report on a Justice Department report finding she had permission to use delete her personal email; those same news organizations get to report on their self-fulfilling narrative: “Our terrible coverage of Clinton’s email woes has led to a voter perception that she’s not trust-worthy!” Ya think?

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    • tonyb39 says:

      Yes Pat, Joan is spot on.. I’m so shocked with Taylor Marsh’s opinions at the moment i couldn’t even post the piece on Hillary.. How Liberals can jump on the get Hillary band wagon i will never know.. Especially the Bernie supporters cause should he win it will be him.. Lol, The Wall Street Journal gave him a taste yesterday..The think Taylor has because she feels tough love is in order.. I respect others opinions but disagree in regards to Hillary’s phony scandals.. If Hillary does do something i’m against i will be critical just like i’m with Obama and Mr. Clinton..

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  30. patd says:

    from http://blogs.wsj.com/cmo/2015/09/16/cmo-today-cnn-scores-with-summer-of-trump/
    TRUMP BUMP: CNN may be the only thing happier about Donald Trump than Donald Trump. The Wall Street Journal reports that the cable news network has been absolutely transfixed on the real-estate developer turned reality TV star turned presidential frontrunner, airing 2,159 reports on Mr. Trump from his June 16 announcement through Sept. 14. Fox News and MSNBC have been captivated by the “Summer of Trump” too–they just aren’t quite at CNN’s level. Mr. Trump will likely help CNN in the ratings Wednesday night at the second Republican debate. The network is charging about $150,000 for a 30-second ad for the spot, and Mr. Trump helped boost the first debate on Fox News to record viewership levels.

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  31. patd says:

    from http://www.jamescampion.com/media-money-donald-trump%E2%80%8F.html/
    MEDIA, MONEY & DONALD TRUMP
    The current issue of Time magazine features an extreme close-up of real estate mogul turned presidential candidate, Donald Trump, whose squint-eyed, pursed-lip Mussolini-like pomp has recently taken on a kind of Miley Cyrus meets Charlie Sheen quality. The text below him simply says “Deal with it”. Inside, there is an article featuring photographs of Trump with a bald eagle perched on his outstretched arm performing his now recognizable thumbs-up routine. This is only one, if not an utterly grotesque example of what has transpired over the past 60 days or so; the tried and true coupling of interesting weirdo being lapped up and shoveled at us by a corporate-backed profit machine known as the media.
    [….]
    This is precisely why Trump’s penchant for blurting out the kind of bizarre rhetoric that would bury any other politician does not harm him. In fact, as a pop culture star, it enhances his notoriety. It is another media maneuver that I call the “Hokey Fight Syndrome”, something which ESPN brilliantly pulled off back when people still followed hockey; the network would run gruesome video of hockey fights and add “tisk-tisk” commentary that was meant to show you that while they knew hockey fights were what you wanted to see, they were outwardly appalled by it. Then they would show another hockey fight. Showing crazy Trump quotes and decrying them matters little in this game. They are shown and therefore they are part of the show.

    the complete article is well worth the read… especially the conclusion:
    Just know this, while the media can saturate us with something strange, it can and will turn like a wild animal. If Trump is truly a media creation, he will eventually be consumed by this insatiable beast he has appeared to tame. If this is somehow merely a conveyance to his end-game, whatever that may be, then we’re into the real fun.

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    • Jamie says:

      The ratings for Morning Joe have been dropping like a rock since they went full time Trumpet Trump & Hate Hillary. Smirk & Jerk plus orders from on high at corporate stupidity have taken over.

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  32. Jamie says:

    NEW THREAD for Debate

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