Pick Your Poison

“I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.” – Albert Einstein

In honor of the various contretemps involving Iran, Korea, Russian, Pakistan, and India for immediacy not to mention Climate Change for semi-long range destruction …. Have a nice weekend and enjoy the temporary distraction of a political campaign.

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110 Responses to Pick Your Poison

  1. Flatus says:

    Went to a local HRC campaign activists’ session today. The guest guru was James Carville who is her advisor. James is as feisty as ever and appeared to be in excellent shape; I was impressed–just as ready for combat as he was during past campaigns.

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    • Jamie says:

      That is good to know since the forces of evil now seem to have the full throated cable media on their side. I’m not sure my TV will survive the projectiles between now and the Caucus / Primary season.

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    • tonyb says:

      Thanks for sharing that.. Very good to know.. I have so far been to 2 grass roots meetings here in Central Florida for Hillary.. Its a nice group of mostly women.. The reasons of support for Hillary in the meetings are vast. All seem determined to do what they can do to see her elected as President..

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      • Flatus says:

        I just wish she was as convincing in her eagerness for the job as her surrogates make her out to be.

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  2. Jamie says:

    Jim Webb on State of the Union. Sounding sane … What a concept.

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  3. jacew2003 says:

    Sunday Serendipity.

    Hot yesterday, hotter still today. Enjoy the music,enjoy the day and stay cool!

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  4. tonyb says:

    Not Just Anti-Hispanic
    The GOP could be angering Asian voters with its latest nativist turn and dooming itself to a repeat of 2012.
    By Jamelle Bouie
    http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/politics/2015/08/donald_trump_immigration_and_asians_is_the_gop_dooming_itself_to_a_repeat.html
    “When Republicans attack immigration—and increasingly, immigrants—we know it alienates Hispanic and Latino voters. Indeed, between Trump and his chorus of imitators, the party has all but abandoned its outreach to that community. But in this analysis, we shouldn’t ignore Asian Americans. This rhetoric matters to them too, and if Republicans aren’t careful, they’re set to lose two groups and likely seal their fate for next November.”

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  5. What Trump really means when he says make American great again. Make Amerian white (not that it every was)

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  6. rebelliousrenee says:

    Tom Lehrer is a genius… no… well ok… at least he’s funny.

    Been reading the posts… but I’m having a hard time giving a damn about politics again. And I thought the repetition of deflate gate was annoying… it’s nothing compared to the constant noise of Trump is great… Hillary is not. At this point I feel like a 5 year old that just keeps watching the same kiddie movie over and over again. Thank god for books. John Irving always cures what ails me.

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    • jacew2003 says:

      RR,

      I’m with you. Politics just isn’t doing it for me right now. Call me in January.
      A republican field that isn’t worth a bucket of warm spit.
      Dems should just lay low for a while and watch them eat their own. I’m going to.

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  7. From an AP story on Trump rally in Alabama. If you’re old enough to remember you don’t want to go there.
    “Donald Trump is telling the truth and people don’t always like that,” said Donald Kidd, a 73-year-old retired pipe welder from Mobile. “He is like George Wallace, he told the truth. It is the same thing.”

    ack

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  8. Jamie says:

    Turning up the heat even more

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  9. Jamie says:

    This one should finally send you away from the TVs and to the nearest body of water 🙂

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  10. patd says:

    the media have become bully enablers and trailing candidates are joining in provoking more bullying or imitating the bully boor himself.

    this link to teach kids about the evils of bullying reads like a good description of the above as hurtful bystanders to a bully.
    from http://www.eyesonbullying.org/bystander.html
    Hurtful Bystanders
    Some bystanders . . . instigate the bullying by prodding the bully to begin.
    Other bystanders . . . encourage the bullying by laughing, cheering, or making comments that further stimulate the bully.
    And other bystanders . . . join in the bullying once it has begun.
    Most bystanders . . . passively accept bullying by watching and doing nothing. Often without realizing it, these bystanders also contribute to the problem. Passive bystanders provide the audience a bully craves and the silent acceptance that allows bullies to continue their hurtful behavior.

    latest blast from the trumpster bully: http://video.foxnews.com/v/4440053325001/trump-omalley-a-disgusting-little-weak-pathetic-baby/?#sp=show-clips

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  11. Flatus says:

    “If you’re old enough to remember you don’t want to go there.” KGC, any time Donald Trump’s supporters equate him, in positive terms, with George Wallace, that’s a place where we need to be tour guides!

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  12. Now Trump is saying he can’t say what he would really do about anything because he would hire the best experts and they would guide him to the right path.

    he is asking voters to buy a pig in a poke

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  13. I am not getting the media I deserve.

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  14. whskyjack says:

    Very funny
    The Bad lip reading, first Republican debate.

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  15. tonyb says:

    Joe Biden Is Leaning Toward a 2016 Run
    Vice president’s deliberations show how the presidential race is in flux for both parties
    By CAROL E. LEE and REID J. EPSTEIN
    http://www.wsj.com/article_email/joe-biden-is-leaning-toward-a-2016-run-1440373384-lMyQjAxMTI1NDI5NDYyNzQ2Wj

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  16. patd says:

    from http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/08/24/lawyer-for-huma-abedin-a-hillary-clinton-aide-strikes-back-at-accuser/
    “We are deeply concerned that Chairman Grassley’s letter has unfairly tarnished Ms. Abedin’s reputation by making unsubstantiated allegations that appear to flow from misinformation that Chairman Grassley has been provided by an unnamed — and apparently unreliable — source,” Mr. Rodriguez wrote. Those allegations, he wrote, included the “suggestion that Ms. Abedin has violated any criminal statute.”

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  17. patd says:

    from http://crooksandliars.com/2015/08/hillary-vs-media-and-their-egregious
    Brent Budowsky’s look at the ridiculous lows to which media is willing to sink is scathing and true. Like her or not, we are owed more than a Trump lovefest by these media hacks who cannot seem to get their act together enough to be honest for a single minute. It rises above bias now to outright malpractice on their part.

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  18. whskyjack says:

    Hang on to your hats, Dow is down 1000 pts right now for the morning.

    Jack

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  19. Flatus says:

    And the repugnants will wait until Biden knocks off Clinton, and then out comes the ancient history of plagiarism; no, nobody has forgotten it. Tramp’s sins? “I’m a businessman.”

    I did listen to Bernie’s Friday evening session held in Columbia. The wall-to-wall broadcast was on C-Span. He was very impressive in his ability to hold the audience without resorting to antics such as Trump’s, or fiery rhetoric such as Carville’s. So far this season, I have not heard/seen a performance by Hillary that matches Bernie’s. She can, and must, regroup and start performing as we know that she can.

    It’s fine going to the Hampton’s for a late summer vacation. It’s good, though, that she’s cutting it short. I hope they are able to get a partial refund of their $100k rent. (I do feel put-upon receiving constant appeals for money from her campaign in the face of such a large personal expenditure when most of us supporting her campaign are financially pinched. Bernie ‘feels our pain’ with no tinge of pandering to the masses.)

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  20. Flatus says:

    This morning’s market is nothing like Black Monday back in October of 1987. I was day trading at the time. On Friday, while in class in Tampa, I received enough information to know that the crash was starting. I left class, called Schwab, and sold several issues “short against the box”. Doing that allowed me to take care of my margin requirements on Monday.

    I desperately wanted to make more trades during the day on Monday. It was impossible. We couldn’t get accurate quotes, nor, even if we traded with imperfect information, our brokers couldn’t get confirmation that our trades did or did not occur. Without that information we could not make follow on trades. Our ability to react was gone.

    Midday, one of the teevee stations setup their broadcast from the trading area at Schwab. They talked to me while I stood at my terminal. The quote that went network-wide was, “There’s blood all over the floor.” When I said that, the reporter’s face took on a shocked expression and she looked at the floor as if she was prepared to leap to safety. It was quite a crash.

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  21. whskyjack says:

    Right now most of my IRA is setting pat and weathering out the storm. But I do have some cash from a real estate sale that has been setting in cash for most of the year so when I saw several of my favorite blue chips plunge it looked like a time to put part of that money to work. It would of been fun to be able to have got in early this morning but the Merrill Lynch web site was down so I had to wait.

    Flatus
    I was out working and had the pickup radio tuned to a local talk station , the talk folks acted stunned and were worried that there was no bottom.
    At the time I had no money in the market all my money was tied up in equipment for several contracts I had with the corps of engineers. So I was mored worried when they keep talking about shutting down the government..

    Jack

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  22. Flatus says:

    Jack, to echo JP Morgan, …the market will fluctuate…” 🙂

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  23. Jamie says:

    I called my son to ask if he had some available nest egg for the fire sale, but his favorite blue chips have already bounced back so he is taking a look at some of the other low lying fruit while hoping this will finally bring on an overdue Disney split. So much for all of us capitalism hating liberals. 🙂

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  24. Flatus says:

    Jamie, I doubt that this is the end of the fluctuations.

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  25. tonyb says:

    Out of Touch Punditry Should Get a Grip — Hillary’s Email Is Non-Story
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-creamer/out-of-touch-punditry-sho_b_8029910.html
    “Of course, this is not the first time that the media — with an assist from right-wing political operatives — have laid into Hillary Clinton in an attempt to create a “scandal” where there was none.

    Over the weekend, syndicated columnist Gene Lyons quoted a New York Times editorial as saying:

    “These clumsy efforts at suppression are feckless and self-defeating.” It argued that these actions are “swiftly draining away public trust in (her) integrity.”

    That editorial actually appeared in January 1994. The Times was expressing outrage at Hillary Clinton’s turning over Whitewater documents to federal instigators rather than the press, which, as Lyons pointed out, ” had conjured a make-believe scandal out of bogus reporting of a kind that’s since become all too familiar in American journalism.”

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  26. tonyb says:

    Scott Walker: Cancel Chinese president’s visit in retaliation for stock market dip
    by Hunter
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/24/1415140/-Scott-Walker-Cancel-Chinese-president-s-visit-in-retaliation-for-stock-market-dip

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  27. blueINdallas says:

    Down here, there is a Ron Paul ad that runs several times a day. Gloom & doom about the economy. Maybe he’s right.

    Do Hillary & Joe want Obama’s support? I really wonder how much that helps a candidate in the primary? That support will be used against the Dem nom in the general, if there is anyone still sitting on the fence.

    I don’t think it’s needed, either. The GOP is alienating huge groups of people.

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    • Jamie says:

      We know they have driven off most women, GLBT, Hispanics, and Blacks. Judging by me, they aren’t doing all that well with old white people either. 🙂

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  28. tonyb says:

    ‘You Buy These Or I Take Your Car’: Cop Shakes Down Driver For Police Fundraiser
    “Nothing he did was right,” said Philadelphia’s police chief.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/philadelphia-police-shakedown_55d791c2e4b08cd3359c30f5?utm_hp_ref=gay-voices&ir=Gay%2BVoices&section=gay-voices&kvcommref=mostpopular
    In a second video, Zagursky uses a homophobic slur while questioning the driver about his pink windshield wipers.

    “What’s up with the faggot ass wipers?” he asks.

    “Breast cancer, man — my grandma went through it,” the driver responds.

    Zagursky says the pink wipers make the driver look like a “fruitcake” and suggests he support breast cancer in a different way. ”
    Oh yes, it all makes sense.. Nasty cop..

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  29. tonyb says:

    Joe Biden Worried Hillary Clinton Isn’t Credible On Income Inequality
    The veep is weighing a run, but his family dynamics are also part of the equation.
    Amanda Terkel
    Sam Stein
    Ryan Grim
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/joe-biden-hillary-clinton_55db83dfe4b0a40aa3abd3d8
    “WASHINGTON — If Vice President Joe Biden decides to jump into the presidential race, his decision will be driven, he has said in recent conversations, by a belief that Hillary Clinton’s background won’t allow her to be a credible messenger when it comes to income inequality, which Biden sees as a defining issue. But even as Biden sees that opening, and is being urged by members of his family to run, his remaining reluctance stems from his wife Jill Biden’s discomfort with a bid at this moment.”
    Love Joe but i’m not feeling it! Income inequality is his main concern, ok and why would his insider background be any different from Hillary’s on income inequality? What does Joe offer up that Hillary doesn’t? Oh yes i’ve heard athenticity.. Joe is Joe, like that.. Will do better with white men, don’t bet on it..

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  30. tonyb says:

    Ceasefire Over: Donald Trump Resumes War Of Words With Megyn Kelly
    “Perhaps she could take another eleven day unscheduled vacation!”
    Ed Mazza
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-megyn-kelly_55dbce5ee4b04ae497044215?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592&kvcommref=mostpopular
    Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
    .@megynkelly must have had a terrible vacation, she is really off her game. Was afraid to confront Dr. Cornel West. No clue on immigration!
    9:42 PM – 24 Aug 2015 · Manhattan, NY, United States
    937 937 Retweets 2,323 2,323 favorites
    I liked The Kelly File much better without @megynkelly. Perhaps she could take another eleven day unscheduled vacation!
    9:50 PM – 24 Aug 2015 · Manhattan, NY, United States
    This guy is just a sick bully, a loon..

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  31. patd says:

    from http://www.wsj.com/articles/signs-of-stability-in-global-markets-despite-chinese-stocks-tumbling-again-1440488999?mod=rss_markets_main
    The global market rout showed signs of easing Tuesday, as U.S. stock futures and European stocks surged despite another sharp drop in Chinese stocks.
    Dow futures gained 584 points, or 3.7%, to 16293. S&P 500 futures were 3.9% higher. Changes in futures aren’t necessarily reflected in market moves after the opening bell. Treasurys slipped, as the fierce demand for haven assets faded.

    seems it’s not quite yet time to sing

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  32. patd says:

    from http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/08/25/4-state-parties-sign-victory-fund-pacts-with-clinton-campaign/
    “The national committee, which is intended to remain neutral, has been accused by Mrs. Clinton’s rivals for the nomination of taking actions that could benefit Mrs. Clinton, such as restricting the number of debates.”

    [hah! you mean like they did for Obama in 2008 when cheated her out of delegates?]

    “Even as some of the recent efforts by the D.N.C., such as devising the debate schedule, have been seen as beneficial to Mrs. Clinton, discussions for a joint fund-raising agreement between Mrs. Clinton’s campaign and the D.N.C. have repeatedly hit snags. There are concerns and distrust within the candidate’s campaign of the current party leadership in terms of controlling the money in a shared account, according to three people briefed on the issue.”

    [rightly so they should have concerns and be wary that the same old dnc folks will pull the rug out again on her]

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  33. patd says:

    from http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/24/politics/donald-trump-immigrant-wives/index.html
    “It’s more than a little ironic that a guy as hardline on immigration as Donald Trump has been surrounded by immigrants his entire life, starting from the very beginning.”

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  34. patd says:

    from http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/08/25/donald-trump-offers-stock-advice-amid-market-turmoil/
    “Donald J. Trump, who is always happy to opine on matters of finance, said he possessed the prescience to unload much of his investment portfolio before the stock market took a dive in the past week.
    For those with less foresight, he has this advice: Hold your stocks, don’t sell them.”

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  35. Our reporters (sic) too dumb or lazy or both to know what people say are lies or truth

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  36. patd says:

    tony, here’s the latest on iowa from http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/25/politics/hillary-clinton-dominates-iowa-poll/index.html
    Suffolk University found Clinton easily dominating the field among Hawk Eye State Democrats, with 54% supporting her. Sanders trailed far behind with 20% support and Biden, who is said to be leaning toward a run, landed with 11%. The poll of 500 likely caucusgoers, which was conducted Aug. 20-24 and carries a 4.4% margin of error, found the other Democratic candidates trailing in the single digits.

    and on new hamp from http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-new-hampshire-poll_55dc947ce4b08cd3359d5f80
    The poll, which surveyed 370 likely New Hampshire Democratic primary voters using automated calls to landline telephones as well as an additional online sample, finds that Sanders has 42 percent of the vote while Clinton has 35 percent. The margin of error for the poll is 5.1 percent.

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    • patd says:

      course it’s a little early to start calling the horse race when they’re no where near the first turn let alone in the starting gate or in some cases not even in the stable yet.

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    • tonyb says:

      Thanks.. Interesting, def no surprise for Bernie in NH.. Biden at 11%, don’t get what Joe brings to the table different than Hillay? Must be the anybody but Hillary voters..

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  37. patd says:

    very funny diatribe against Rasmussen polling from http://wonkette.com/593289/bernie-fans-and-republicans-agree-hillary-clinton-should-drop-out-now

    “Oh look, it is another extremely meaningful poll to tell us the extremely meaningful things about what might happen if the 2016 election were held today, even though it’s not going to be held for (hold on, back-of-the-napkin calculations happening) at least eleventy thousand more days. Considering how Hillary Clinton is probably a ginormous email criminal, who insists on changing her email address every single time she fires up a new AOL free trial CD-ROM, should she drop out of the race RIGHT THIS SECOND? “

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  38. tonyb says:

    Democrats Think Hillary Clinton Is Their Best Shot To Win The White House
    And relatively few primary voters are clamoring for a Biden candidacy.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/democratic-primary-poll_55d4a4a4e4b0ab468d9f3a40?kvcommref=mostpopular
    “A HuffPost/YouGov poll conducted earlier this month, which asked Democrats whether they had made up their minds and whether they would prefer Clinton or a different nominee, shows just how much of the primary field she may have locked down. Sixty-two percent of Democrats who plan to vote in the primary say they would prefer to see her as the nominee, including 44 percent who say they “have a good idea” of who they’ll vote for and 16 percent who are still making up their minds but would rather see her nominated than anyone else.”

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  39. tonyb says:

    New York Times goes to the bedroom door in its eGhazi coverage
    by Laura Clawson
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/25/1415336/-New-York-Times-goes-to-the-bedroom-door-in-its-eGhazi-coverage
    “The New York Times’ latest angle in its ongoing efforts to overplay the Hillary Clinton email story is … weird. It’s a combination human interest profile/airing of false allegations/weak correction of said false allegations on top Clinton aide Huma Abedin. To really set readers up for the weirdness of this story, this is how Maggie Haberman, Amy Chozick, and Steve Eder begin:
    Among the trove of emails released from Hillary Rodham Clinton’s tenure as secretary of state was this instruction to a trusted aide who needed to brief her on a matter that could not wait:
    “Just knock on the door to the bedroom if it’s closed,” Mrs. Clinton wrote in November 2009 to Huma Abedin, then her deputy chief of staff.”

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  40. tonyb says:

    Move over Donald, Jeb!’s gonna take you down!
    byKerry Eleveld
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/25/1415358/-Move-over-Donald-Jeb-s-gonna-take-you-down
    “Jeb! Bush has had enough and he isn’t going to take it anymore! He and his campaign are gearing up to go toe-to-toe with The Donald—dishing out just as much as they have been taking in the last couple months, reports Michael Barbaro.”

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  41. tonyb says:

    Donald Trump Kicks Jorge Ramos Out Of Press Conference
    “Go back to Univision.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-kicks-jorge-ramos-out-of-press-conference_55dcf2b1e4b0a40aa3aca654

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  42. tonyb says:

    Jeb Bush Claims Planned Parenthood Isn’t ‘Doing Women’s Health Issues’
    It was the GOP presidential candidate’s second gaffe on the issue of women’s health in recent weeks.
    Laura Bassett
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jeb-bush-planned-parenthood_55dcac90e4b0a40aa3ac5fe1?kvcommref=mostpopular
    “At a town hall in Englewood, Colorado, the former Florida governor said Planned Parenthood should not be receiving federal Medicaid and family planning funds. “I, for one, don’t think Planned Parenthood ought to get a penny, though, and that’s the difference because they’re not actually doing women’s health issues,” Bush said. “They’re involved in something way different than that.”
    Wow, this guy is as dumb as a sack of rocks!

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  43. patd says:

    tony, thanks for linking the jorge ramos roust. here’s a part of wapo’s coverage from
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/25/first-trump-booted-univision-anchor-jorge-ramos-out-of-his-news-conference-then-things-got-interesting/
    At first, he accused Ramos of violating his news conference protocol. “He stood up and started screaming,” Trump said of Ramos. “He’s obviously a very emotional person,” said Trump.
    But moments later, Ramos returned to his seat in the front row — and Trump called on him. For five minutes, they tangled over immigration policy, an issue on which both men have passionately different views. It was one of the more compelling moments of the 2016 campaign.

    and another from http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/08/26/jorge-ramos-is-a-conflict-junkie-just-like-his-latest-target-donald-trump/
    The mano-a-mano media showdown made for gripping entertainment — something both men know plenty about. It pitted a TV host turned presidential candidate against (another) one of the most widely watched men in America, all on live television.

    so, it’s fun and games and manly mano-a-mano in media melees now.
    simple as abc…anybody but Clinton.
    (remember the finger wagging stories on how dare she set up a rope line! or tsktsk she ignores us just to talk to actual voters! whine whine she’s paranoid about the press!)
    but look how macho the donald? and jeb! are. what cojones.

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    • tonyb says:

      Oh yes, spot on! Oh and let us not forget, Hillary is “testy” with the press and Bush and Trump are firm, tough, ballsy..

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  44. tonyb says:

    Donald Trump is ‘a net positive’ for GOP, Reince Priebus desperately wants to convince us
    by Laura Clawson
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/25/1415318/-Donald-Trump-is-a-net-positive-for-GOP-Reince-Priebus-desperately-wants-to-convince-us
    “Those 30 million people were actually 24 million people (six million tuned in for the kid’s table debate, but I’m going to assume those weren’t six million entirely different people), but never mind that: what’s important is that they watched those 16 other incredible candidates take wildly unpopular positions like opposing abortion even in cases of rape or incest. That may be a net positive in the Republican primary, but it’s not going to help the party’s nominee come the general election.”

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  45. tonyb says:

    Ambassador Caroline Kennedy Scrutinized for Use of Private Email
    by Josh Feldman
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/ambassador-caroline-kennedy-scrutinized-for-use-of-private-email/

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  46. Gee Joe take a look at what happened to Fred Thompson when he was lured into running
    and what about Colin Powells use of private email?
    I hope the goops do decide The Truck-u-lent one should be their standard bearer — no hiiding behind Frank Luntz –the Truck will let it all hang out!

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  47. patd says:

    nyt Verbatim: Hillary Clinton Reacts to Shooting in Virginia
    “Heartbroken and angry. We must act to stop gun violence, and we cannot wait any longer. Praying for the victims’ families in Virginia.”

    bet the nra and their puppet pols will use the “We must act to stop gun violence” against her and right now producing pac ads saying she’s trying to take their guns away.

    http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/08/26/hillary-clinton-on-virginia-tv-shooting-we-must-act-to-stop-gun-violence/ reports what others (dembats and gopers) had to say. interesting that they pointed out that
    “Her main rival in the 2016 Democratic race, Sen. Bernie Sanders (I., Vt.), has walked a fine line on gun control legislation in the past. He voted against the Brady Bill – an act passed in 1993 that mandated federal background checks people who purchase a firearm in the in the U.S. However, after the shooting in South Carolina in June, Mr. Sanders told NPR’s Morning Edition that he would support stricter background checks and that “guns and gun control is an issue that needs to be discussed.”

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  48. patd says:

    from http://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2015/08/25/biden-and-warren-have-history-clashes/9iJN81xHboKr4HWXQyP6jM/story.html
    “A look at the public record shows that clashes between the pair began more than a decade ago. The fraught relationship has improved in recent years, but their past would complicate a potential alliance should he decide to run for president — and, as some have speculated, ask her to join him on a ticket.
    Biden was an early opponent of Warren as she cut her teeth in national politics, and he became one of the first in a long list of Democrats to be called out by her for not sufficiently supporting the pro-middle class policies that she has made a reputation promoting.”

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  49. patd says:

    in its usual colorful language, wonkette critiques and calls out the nytimes for the latest hill attack http://wonkette.com/593301/new-york-times-just-suggesting-maybe-hillarys-getting-some-lesbian-ass-on-the-side

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  50. tonyb says:

    The case against Joe Biden 2016: Why remind Democrats he’s even less liberal than Hillary?
    On crime, bankruptcy law and abortion, Biden is to Clinton’s right. His only way to win is to attack her personally
    JOAN WALSH
    http://www.salon.com/2015/08/26/the_case_against_joe_biden_2016_why_remind_democrats_hes_even_less_liberal_than_hillary/

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  51. tonyb says:

    Hillary Clinton’s poll numbers haven’t dropped at all—and this one chart proves it
    byDavid Nir
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/26/1415688/-Hillary-Clinton-s-poll-numbers-haven-t-dropped-at-all-and-this-one-chart-proves-it

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  52. tonyb says:

    Clinton on Gun Violence: “I Will Take It On”
    Taylor Marsh
    http://www.taylormarsh.com/2015/08/clinton-on-gun-violence-i-will-take-it-on/
    “HILLARY CLINTON was asked about the unspeakable carnage that took place earlier today when a reporter and photographer were gunned down on camera.

    Reporting from CNN

    According to ABC, a 23-page fax to the network arrived almost two hours after the shooting. It came from someone who identified himself as Bryce Williams, the on-air name gunman Vester L. Flanagan II used when he worked as a reporter.

    In the manifesto, according to ABC, the gunman said the Charleston, South Carolina, church shooting in June is what put him over the edge, but wrote that his “anger has been building steadily,” because of racial discrimination and sexual harassment he claims to have endured.

    The writer expressed admiration for the shooters who massacred students at Columbine High School killers and Virginia Tech. And he said he put a deposit down for a gun two days after the Charleston shooting.

    “As for Dylann Roof? You (deleted)! You want a race war (deleted)? BRING IT THEN YOU WHITE (deleted)!!!” the manifesto reportedly said.
    If you’re looking for authentic, someone who feels the loss of Americans she would govern, this video reveals Hillary’s heart.”

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  53. I think I must have bells in my battery.

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  54. patd says:

    from http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/27/us/politics/latino-news-media-offended-by-donald-trump-shows-it-in-broadcasts.html
    “A president like Trump would be like giving a loaded gun to a monkey,” Mr. Sanchez said in one broadcast. “But a gun that fires atomic bullets.”

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  55. The possibility exists that The Tramp is doing a massive “reverse psychology” kind of deal……that would be massively hilarious should it turn out to be so.

    But maybe everything is merely exactly what it appears to be……..

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  56. httpv://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KAxImYbdEek

    Los Everlies

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  57. rebelliousrenee says:

    Hey Sturg…
    but if trump turned around… then he’d be doing the reverse of reverse psychology…
    crap… I think my head is spinning outta control…

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  58. patd says:

    hiho, sturge! good to see you back on the trail


    The hundredth monkey effect is a studied phenomenon[1] in which a new behavior or idea is claimed to spread rapidly by unexplained means from one group to all related groups once a critical number of members of one group exhibit the new behavior or acknowledge the new idea. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hundredth_monkey_effect

    hmmm. this applies to our present presidential election in so many ways depending upon whether the 100th monkey is the 100th pundit or 100th goper candidate.

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  59. what about mrs.truck….isn’t she an immigrant

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  60. tonyb says:

    Trump Preaching to Shrinking White Electorate Creates Problems for GOPHis anti-immigrant rhetoric and visceral stance on citizenship rights are forcing Republicans into opposing corners.
    BY RONALD BROWNSTEIN
    http://www.nationaljournal.com/next-america/newsdesk/trump-preaching-to-white-electorate-creates-gop-problems-20150826

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  61. tonyb says:

    This Kentucky Clerk Vows To Die For The Right To Oppose Gay Marriage
    Casey Davis promises to defy the Supreme Court’s ruling, even if it costs him his life.

    Curtis M. Wong
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/this-kentucky-clerk-vows-to-die-for-the-right-to-oppose-gay-marriage_55de1264e4b0a40aa3ad3a78?kvcommref=mostpopular

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    • patd says:

      tony, here’s same guy last month in http://www.rawstory.com/2015/07/kentucky-county-clerks-could-face-jail-time-for-refusing-to-issue-same-sex-marriage-licenses/
      Davis met with Kentucky Gov. Steve Beshear who had told him to do his job or resign. He has no plans to do either.
      [….]
      If the ACLU prevails and the court issues an injunction and the clerks continue to defy it, they can be jailed, the AP reports. Removing them from office, however, would require impeachment by the state General Assembly, which the AP terms unlikely.
      Casey Davis told reporters he is ready to go to jail.
      “If that’s what it takes for me to express the freedom of religion that I believe I was born with, I’m willing to do that,” he said.
      Beshear said the rest of the county clerks statewide are doing their jobs regardless of what their personal beliefs are,

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    • tonyb says:

      What a hideous human being he is.. Man, can’t be impeached because of Republicans, umm guess he will have to do his job or go to jail..

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  62. tonyb says:

    George Zimmerman: Virginia “hate crime” shootings committed by “pansy” and condoned by “ignorant baboon” Barack Obama
    The deaths of Alison Parker and Adam Ward gave Trayvon Martin’s killer an excuse to vent, and he used it with gusto
    SCOTT ERIC KAUFMAN
    http://www.salon.com/2015/08/27/george_zimmerman_virginia_hate_crime_shootings_committed_by_pansy_and_condoned_by_ignorant_baboon_barack_obama/

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  63. tonyb says:

    Marco Rubio’s trickle-down nonsense: Tax cuts for the rich make sense because his father was a bartender!
    His tax plan will make the rich richer and worsen inequality, but his dad was working-class so it’s okay
    SIMON MALOY
    http://www.salon.com/2015/08/27/marco_rubios_trickle_down_nonsense_tax_cuts_for_the_rich_make_sense_because_his_father_was_a_bartender/

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  64. hey don’t pick on marco he was an anchor baby …

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  65. patd says:

    remember the guy famous for faux facts aka selectively edited crap re acorn, the border patrol and planned parenthood?
    from http://wonkette.com/593312/james-okeefe-releases-shock-video-of-hillary-campaign-torturing-puppies
    “Self-important Hefty bag of slime mold James O’Keefe has released a shocking new video showing Hillary Clinton campaigners in Iowa shockingly discussing ways to get Hillary Clinton elected. The Clinton campaign told Time magazine last week that it suspected people pretending to be volunteers for O’Keefe’s “Project Veritas” were trying to entrap Iowa campaign workers into saying something dumb or illegal. The beauty of O’Keefe’s operation is that while he’s never actually uncovered examples of people doing unethical or illegal things, he’s awfully good at thinking of illegal shit to do, then either recording simulated crimes, or trying to get people to go along with doing crimes, which proves such crimes must be rampant. Except in Iowa, the Clinton campaign was paying attention, and warned staffers not to assist anyone in an Osama bin Laden mask to fake voter registration forms.”

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  66. Ann Coulter is a Trump supporter

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  67. The goops have no one to blame but themselves for this mess
    No wonder their voters think a feckless (and factless) blowhard like Truck could be president they are constantly being told we don’t need government so why not let a clown take charge

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  68. well no government except to supervise religious behavior so that it conforms to the beliefs of the few

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  69. tonyb says:

    Hillary on Email Controversy: “I Get It”
    Taylor Marsh
    http://www.taylormarsh.com/2015/08/hillary-on-email-controversy-i-get-it/
    ““I’m not running for President Obama’s third term. And I’m not running for my husband’s third term. I’m running for my first term.” – Hillary Clinton in Ohio
    IT WAS a moment in Iowa that needed to happen. Hillary Clinton getting real on the server/email issue and saying what only she could say.

    Reporting from Maggie Haberman

    “I know people have raised questions about my email use as secretary of state, and I understand why,” Mrs. Clinton said Wednesday. “I get it. So here’s what I want the American people to know: My use of personal email was allowed by the State Department. It clearly wasn’t the best choice. I should’ve used two emails: one personal, one for work.”

    She added: “I take responsibility for that decision, and I want to be as transparent as possible, which is why I turned over 55,000 pages, why I’ve turned over my server, why I’ve agreed to — in fact, been asking to — and have finally gotten a date to testify before a congressional committee in October.”

    “I’m confident that this process will prove that I never sent, nor received, any email that was marked classified,” she said.
    CNN has the video of Clinton’s remarks.

    The Clinton campaign finally understood that joking won’t work, waiting without comment won’t either. This won’t be enough for some, but it’s all she can do.

    Meanwhile, Joe Biden is weighing family issues and sounds torn in two over whether to run against Hillary Clinton or not. On a call where he strongly pitched the Iran Deal, Biden was also asked about 2016. His primary concern is understandable. He’s just not sure his family is ready. If they’re not ready now I’m not sure another month will be enough, but Biden deserves the time to consider.

    New York Times reporting

    But when discussing his family, Mr. Biden sounded somber, and without naming his son Beau, who died on May 30, he spoke of a family in deep grief.

    Were he to run, he would “have to be able to commit to all of you that I would be able to give it my whole heart and my whole soul,” he said, “and right now, both are pretty well banged up.”

    “I’m not trying to skirt your question,” he said. “That’s the truth of the matter, but believe me, I’ve given this a lot of thought and dealing internally with the family on how we do this.”

    The call was not open to reporters, but the audio was made public by CNN.
    If Biden and his supporters looked at Quinnipiac today he would be encouraged to run. From CNN

    Clinton still leads the Democratic race at 45% support from registered Democrats, followed by Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders at 22% and Biden — who is currently mulling a 2016 bid — at 18%.

    But Biden, currently sporting the highest favorability rating among any 2016 candidates polled of either party, tops Trump 48% to 40%, compared to Clinton, who beats Trump 45% to 41%. Biden also beats Bush, 45% to 39%, compared to Clinton, who beats Bush 42% to 40%.
    Clinton’s statement on Biden jumping in, as expected, was gracious and pitch perfect.

    “I have a great deal of admiration and affection for him,” she said. “And I think he has to make what is a very difficult decision for himself and his family, and he should have the space and the opportunity to decide what he wants to do. I’m going to be running for president regardless, and I’m going to be continuing to put forth my policies.”

    She added, “I always thought this would be a competitive campaign.”
    Hillary Clinton is leaving the discouraging note to her allies, a smart thing to do. Tom Harkin came out against Biden running, because of legacy, which won’t make a dent.

    Contrary to those trying to discourage Biden, like Harkin disingenuously citing Biden’s legacy if he loses to Clinton, which he very likely will. Clinton can handle anything Biden can bring her way. She will have to get her game on to debate Joe Biden, which will prepare her for the general election much better. Biden can’t say anything against Hillary that will compare to how Republicans will come at her.

    With the server/email issue addressed from her as best as she can, it’s all about waiting for official word from the F.B.I.

    Hillary’s got this.”

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  70. tonyb says:

    Enough Is Enough
    Charles M Blow
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/27/opinion/enough-is-enough.html?_r=0
    “23. “Oftentimes when I was sleeping with one of the top women in the world I would say to myself, thinking about me as a boy from Queens, ‘Can you believe what I am getting?’ ” (“Think Big: Make it Happen in Business and Life,” 2008)

    32. “… she does have a very nice figure. I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.” (ABC’s “The View,” March 6, 2006)

    35. “If Hillary Clinton can’t satisfy her husband what makes her think she can satisfy America?” (Twitter, April 16, 2015)

    117. “Rosie’s a person that’s very lucky to have her girlfriend. And she better be careful or I’ll send one of my friends over to pick up her girlfriend. Why would she stay with Rosie if she had another choice?” (“Entertainment Tonight,” Dec. 21, 2006)

    121. Arianna Huffington is “a dog.” (Twitter, April 6, 2015)

    Need I go on? (Thanks, Politico!)”

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  71. tonyb says:

    Hillary Clinton Compares GOP’s ‘Extreme Views’ On Women To Those Of Terrorist Groups
    She called out the stances of Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush and John Kasich on reproductive health.
    Samantha Lachman (video)
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-gop-views-on-women_55df345fe4b08dc09486a5f4?kvcommref=mostpopular

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  72. tonyb says:

    Hillary Scolds #BlackLivesMatter Hecklers: ‘I’m Going to Keep Talking’
    by Ken Meyer
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/hillary-scolds-blacklivesmatter-hecklers-im-going-to-keep-talking/

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  73. Jennifer Granholm doing an excellent job for Clinton

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  74. patd says:

    Carl Hiaasen: Jeb Bush needs some razzle-dazzle http://www.miamiherald.com/opinion/op-ed/article31827456.html enumerates suggestions. here’s his idea #5:
    Tone down the whole Florida thing.
    At this point, everybody in the country knows you were governor of Florida. Endlessly bragging about it doesn’t seem to be working.
    That’s probably because too many prospective voters have either been to Florida, or read enough wild stories to know that it’s not a model of honest, efficient government. It’s also not a particularly tranquil place to live.
    These days, folks in Iowa or New Hampshire hear the word Florida and they think of drug shootouts, Medicare fraud, sinkholes and giant pythons.
    While on the campaign trail, you’d be better off speaking in broad terms about your experience as the two-term leader of a dynamic, fast-growing Southern state.
    Just leave it at that.

    and his idea #6:
    At the next television debate, don’t stand next to Trump.
    This is not an issue of height, or hair. You definitely are taller than he is, and you obviously don’t have hair plugs taken from an orangutan’s armpit.
    However, Trump is so loud and bombastic that he makes those around him fade into the background. The best way to distance yourself from this preening gasbag is to physically distance yourself.
    Demand a podium at the farthest end of the row of candidates, preferably beside Rand Paul or Bobby Jindal, if either of them makes the cut. It’s impossible not to look presidential standing next to those guys.

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  75. patd says:

    The Daily 202: Trump says maybe America should try making a jerk president http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2015/08/28/the-daily-202-trump-says-maybe-america-should-try-making-a-jerk-president/
    “The only thing I did badly on was: Is he a nice person? I was last in terms of niceness,” he said.
    Campaigning deep in the Bible Belt yesterday, the businessman spun this as an asset, not a liability. Indeed, much of Trump’s strength derives from his refusal to play nice with the GOP establishment. Americans feel angry and betrayed by their elites, and he’s channeling it.
    Trump frames the GOP choice as niceness vs. competency. “We’re tired of the nice,” he said. “We don’t need the nice. We need competent.” (His opponents, of course, would quibble that he’s also competent to govern.)

    hmmm, according to above hillary’s unfav polls must not be a problem after all.

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  76. rebelliousrenee says:

    New Thread!

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